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	<title>59Box - China Web Hosting Blog &#187; China Internet</title>
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		<title>Not even Google is spared from China</title>
		<link>http://blog.59box.com/2010/01/not-even-google-is-spared-from-china/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The now famous post by Google regarding their new approach to China is a must read for anyone planning to host in China. As a company operating in China, we are glad that Google brings to light the practices and length that China is willing to go in order to police the Internet.
While on the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The now famous post by Google <a title="A new approach to China" href="http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html" target="_blank">regarding their new approach to China</a> is a must read for anyone planning to host in China. As a company operating in China, we are glad that Google brings to light the practices and length that China is willing to go in order to police the Internet.</p>
<p>While on the surface it seem that business practices in China is increasingly capitalistic, business driven, there is an under current that <strong>if you do business in China you do it their way</strong>. This is especially so in matters dear to the central ideology which, least we forgot, is still communism.</p>
<p>For the longest time we tried to explained that in order to host a website in China, one need to register the site with the authority and obtain an ICP number. Many think it was unthinkable or we are joking until their site got shutdown. Then they think we are to blame.</p>
<p>Recently, China decided to step up their policing of the Internet and ordered the shut down of datacenter and inspected individual server. Without notice. Can you imagine something like this happen in the datacenter where you host your server?</p>
<p>Well, it can happen in China. In fact this is not the first time we encountered such cases in our operation history.</p>
<p>We had client with racks of  servers serving hotel operation across China affected for more than a day! We appreciate that they understanding that things like this happens in China.</p>
<p>SLA? Sure the datacenter can give you a SLA. But when the government official come knocking, whose side do you think they will stand? No one says &#8220;no&#8221; to the government. No one. (Until Google maybe)</p>
<p>If even Google is not spared, be assured that your server hosted in China has the possibility of being monitored if need be.</p>
<p>There will be customers who do not understand and decided to pull out thinking we are bullshitting them.  We had long since decided our approach to China. Worry less about losing customer and helping sincere customers to host in this minefield environment.</p>
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		<title>Questions about China bandwidth and speed</title>
		<link>http://blog.59box.com/2009/06/questions-about-china-bandwidth-and-speed/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[China Internet]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not too long ago I made a comment on a blog about China bandwidth and also responded to a number of questions from clients about the network and bandwidth in China.
So this post is a compilation and putting down my thoughts on this topic. I must say after a few years in the hosting business [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not too long ago I made a <a href="http://www.shanghaiwebhosting.com/web-hosting/how-is-the-web-hosting-industry-different-in-china" target="_blank">comment on a blog about China bandwidth</a> and also responded to a number of questions from clients about the network and bandwidth in China.</p>
<p>So this post is a compilation and putting down my thoughts on this topic. I must say after a few years in the hosting business in China, we are still learning and trying to understand the network and environment better.</p>
<p>China is perhaps quite unique in the sense that it has a really <a href="http://blog.59box.com/2009/03/china-internet-population-exceed-298-million/" title="China Internet Population exceed 298 million" target="_blank">huge internet population</a> and there are huge demand for reaching content outside and inside of China. </p>
<p>According to CNNIC, the <a href="http://www.cnnic.cn/en/index/0O/index.htm" target="_blank">international bandwidth is 640,287 Mbit/s</a> (Dec 31, 2008). Wikipedia has a list that shows the number of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users" target="_blank">users in China is greater than the EU</a>. I have not found data about EU international bandwidth but I suspect that with most EU countries having their own international bandwidth, the total is probably more that China.</p>
<p>Therefore is doesn&#8217;t matter if you are connected to a huge pipe at either end. If you are coming in or going out, there is a narrow congested pipe in the middle.</p>
<p>The US has the advantage that the Internet start there and they whole world is connecting there. But there will probably come a time that the world want to connect to China and India (which from the Wikipedia data is just 7% of population but already the top 4).</p>
<p>An area we have yet look into is private transit and bandwidth, so if you have any insight into that I would love to learn more about it. We are also venture more into this area as well and hope to bring some exciting products that meets the requirement of customers in China.</p>
<p>Internally, the China Internet network is also unique and interesting as well. Other than the US and maybe India coming up, there isn&#8217;t another country that need to network so many people and cities.<br />My guess is that at the present moment, the network in China is not as well developed as in the US. No hard data here but I think it is easily a good guess. </p>
<p>Then there is the also problem that the two major network providers don&#8217;t like talking to each other. Well things has gotten better over the last few few years. It used to be that going to sites on the other provider is even slower than going to the US.</p>
<p>Guess all these are what makes things really interesting for us. An interesting, challenging and growing environment that is China. </p>
<p>If you have information or experience, perhaps share with us in the comments.</p>
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		<title>Our China server Speed Test</title>
		<link>http://blog.59box.com/2009/05/our-china-server-speed-test/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 04:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We had added one of our datacenter locations to SpeedTest.net.
Since there are not many test sites hosted within China, we became the default sent-to for areas near and north of Shanghai. Immediately within the first few hours the results are very revealing about the bandwidth and latency situation within China.
Try it here:

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had added one of our datacenter locations to <a target="_blank" href="http://SpeedTest.net">SpeedTest.net</a>.</p>
<p>Since there are not many test sites hosted within China, we became the default sent-to for areas near and north of Shanghai. Immediately within the first few hours the results are very revealing about the bandwidth and latency situation within China.</p>
<p>Try it here:<br />
<iframe src ="http://60.190.223.220/test/index450x250.html" style="border:0" width="450" height="250"></iframe></p>
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		<title>Using Data Encryption and SSL in China</title>
		<link>http://blog.59box.com/2009/05/using-data-encryption-and-ssl-in-china/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 10:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The use of data encryption is regulated in China. 
Like many regulations in China, there are often difficult to interpret areas and enforcement is often non-standard across different administrative locations. When in doubt, many people either adopt a do it until questioned approach or not to do anything at all.
In the case of encryption, this [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The use of data encryption is regulated in China. </p>
<p>Like many regulations in China, there are often difficult to interpret areas and enforcement is often non-standard across different administrative locations. When in doubt, many people either adopt a do it until questioned approach or not to do anything at all.</p>
<p>In the case of encryption, this has prevented the widespread use of SSL in websites. Even among e-commerce or social websites, SSL is hardly used to protect the transit of personal data and sensitive information.</p>
<p>In fact, you will hardly see any web hosting company even mentioning or providing SSL certificate.</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.networkworld.com/careers/2004/0315man.html?page=1">This article</a> has an interesting comment:<br />
<blockquote>If you encrypt data in China, you have to provide the Chinese government   the ability to access the keys. By this regulation, the Chinese should be able to get access to [Secure Sockets Layer]-encrypted traffic, too.&#8221;  The result is that businesses tend not to use encryption in China &#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>If you are using any kind of encryption in your servers in China or even VPN, you are well advised to seek opinion from a qualified laywer.</p>
<p>More information: 
<ul>
<li><a target="_blank" href="http://www.chinaitlaw.org/?p1=topic&amp;p2=22">China IT Law</a></li>
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		<title>China Internet Population exceed 298 million</title>
		<link>http://blog.59box.com/2009/03/china-internet-population-exceed-298-million/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 05:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[China Internet population now exceeds 238 million according to a BBC article Surge in Chinese internet users.  That&#8217;s almost the same as the population of the United States. Last year growth was a staggering 41.9% and it looks like the growth is still not pausing for a break.
Wikipedia also has some interesting information,

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China Internet population now exceeds 238 million according to a BBC article <a title="Surge in Chinese Internet users  to 238 millions" href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7827765.stm" target="_blank">Surge in Chinese internet users</a>.  That&#8217;s almost the same as the population of the United States. Last year growth was a staggering 41.9% and it looks like the growth is still not pausing for a break.</p>
<p>Wikipedia also has some interesting information,</p>
<ul>
<li><a title="List of countries by number of Internet users" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_Internet_users" target="_blank">list of internet users by countries</a></li>
<li><a title="List of countries by number of broadband Internet users" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_broadband_users" target="_blank">list of broadband users by countries</a></li>
</ul>
<p>While much has been publish about the control of content and the restriction of access to certain websites in China, less attention is put on the strain such a big internet population put on the infrastructure and the challenges and opportunities such a large population present.</p>
<p><a title="China Internet Network Information Center" href="http://www.cnnic.cn/en/index/0O/index.htm" target="_blank">Data from CNNIC</a>, the China Internet Network Information Center, indicates that the international bandwidth is 640286.67Mbps (about 625Gbps). That&#8217;s an average of about 2Kbps per user. Do you feel a little slow accessing international sites from China? Or slow China site from other parts of the world?</p>
<p>Are you planning to tap the China Internet potential? We like to be your partner.</p>
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